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his political opponents. also tonight, the alleged gilgo beach serial killer accused of having haunted even more victims years before the others. >> the new murder charges factor to be handed down. and a forgotten hero of d-day 80 years since the storming of warm and de, a black army medic is forgotten no more. his son is here to share his remarkable story. tonight on laura coates live all right, not one but two of the major legal cases around donald trump are now in a kind of legal quicksand and they're going nowhere fast, including the one that brought us this infamous mug shot. the one down in fulton county. now the chance of a trial happening there this year let alone before he number election, it basically evaporated today. a georgia appeals court put the election interference case on hold indefinitely until it

rules on the appeal to disqualify the da fani willis and let's be honest, that is going to take months and we are what, 153 or so days away from the election bureaucracy moves pretty slowly. the mar-a-lago classified documents case that's also stalled and appears to be in some sort of pretrial hearing, purgatory and limbo. just today, judge aileen cannon came with a new hearing casual for different motions that could delay the case some more minute. this case hasn't even have a trial date yet now, trump and his allies have railed against all of these cases collectively. but lately their anger has been focused on the one prosecutor who had a trial and secured a conviction. i'm talking about the manhattan da, alvin bragg. and in a preview of what they say is in store should trump win, his allies, steve bannon told axios, of course bragg should be and will be jailed for what, how, what, and when. well,

that's i guess the details. and it's not just the vaknin trump allies on capitol hill say that they're ready to retaliate thanks, have consequences. they going to have consequences as they should convicted, or wrong. man well, juror is disagreed. >> donald trump has talked are attributions since well, ever since is indictments came out, but tonight on fox news he said, people who think kill, use the justice system to prosecute his enemies are wrong. but then he followed that up with this statement look when this election is over, based on what they've done, i would have every right to go after them and it's easy because it's joe biden and you see all the criminality well, joining us now, former homeland security adviser to vice president mike pence olivia troy, if i'm a republican congressman, joe walsh, i'm

glad the both of you are here. i'm just gonna go back that statement. i would have every right to go after them you were in the trump administration. you were frankly an outspoken critic what do you make of that statement? do you feel concern? absolutely. i think that we should take that very seriously. i think one thing donald trump does is tell you exactly what he's gonna do out loud. he is the king of projection. i would say. >> and he tells us all what his plans will be when he tells you that he's going to do something or you said something to that effect? >> you should take that very seriously and look at my concerned i'm concerned for myself. i'm concerned for my family. i'm concerned for many of us who have spoken the truth about the danger that he is. and i'm i'm concerned for these judges and everyone else who have really just been doing their jobs i mean, there was the concerns you faced when you were getting threats. i mean, it's been years now living that you've been combating this whole issue. and now this idea of the perspective is he's relaying this a

perspective, maybe even a prosecution for what an idea of that concern has that exponentially increased it for you? >> it has. and i think what is really disturbing here as he goes on fox news and he says, oh no, we've now become a banana republic. know trump. >> that's what you want us to be. >> that's the direction that we would go in. should you come back into office because you will be holding prosecution's you'll be holding people in jail because you're vindictive and you're angry get them just for following the rule of law, just for following the judicial process i mean, if you can if you committed a crime you should have due process and you should be held accountable. >> lori, we can't mince words and this isn't the first time trump has said something like this. this is fascism if i get elected and i am running the government, i'm going after my enemies i'm going to use the powers of government to go after my enemies. he's said this a number of times. this is fascism the american people need to wake up to this i

remember what it was like a pearl-clutching moment to think about somebody having an enemies list, write a political enemies less. and the idea that being so stunning to democracy. and remember when john dean raised it and talked about this use of it, and even what irs audits and beyond. now we're talking about using the justice system in a way that he is saying is happening to him. >> but i want to turn to the issue of classified documents, as well as but one other issue and you, olivia, of course you're paying very close attention because you've been somebody who served in national security for a long time. >> this is one of those cases. i think people are very unsettled about that. what happened to the document, who has been has seen these documents and beyond. and this is being slow walked in a particular methodical fashion. do you have concerns about this case in particular, not happening before the election? >> i do because look, this is a case where it deals with matters of serious national security. >> these are people's lives. these are people sons, daughters, people who are deployed in the field. these

are members of the military, members of the intelligence community that i served in and when you look at that and you think this person could be possibly the commander in chief again, that's why this matters, because it wasn't just that he took the documents and see he obstructed the entire process after it. right? it was the obstruction. when you do something wrong, you're like, oh, my bad, my bad. i did not mean to take this. i don't even know what i'm doing with those. you try to be at least appear to be remorseful about the situation laura, here's the bigger, broader picture. >> trump's bad for us the trump's the luckiest sob in the world. think about it, three-and-a-half years. he tried to overthrow an american election. he will not be put on trial for that before this election. he tried, he used the powers of his office to try to force georgia to overturn their results. he will not face trial for that before this election. and as olivia said, he stole and then obstructed the retrieval of classified documents he's not going to be put on trial for that before this selection. the only thing

he's on trial for is hush money to a p*rn star. he had sex with 15 years ago. the american people deserve better than that. >> well, they found falsified business records in that case alone that hadn't been had a connection to the election, but i hear your larger point i've always been sort of flabbergasted by the idea of doubling down to keep the documents. i think about it as a mom. right? if my children had something in the cart at target and i walked out and they say, excuse me, you didn't pave that, wouldn't be like, well, it's my now it's in my car and i would get it back. right. this is not a true story. my kids are not take things from try again, i'm just using that as example. but he doubled down on very important documents while it continues to do so. >> but then there are those who are supporting him, even through all this and the gop vice presidential, vip stakes continues to this very day on this list of people were hearing from cnn tonight. >> you've got governor doug burgum. we've got senators, marco rubio and jd vance, tim scott congresswoman elise stefanik, congress when byron donalds and also dr. ben carson, they've all apparently received some bedding materials

from the trump campaign you served in the vice president's office and of course, your reaction to this? we saw how vice president pence was treated, particularly in the end are you surprised so many people are raising their hands now you know, i think political craven, nas, and opportunistic people that, that's what they're gonna do. >> and i think that they think they go into this and i think especially in trump's circles, they go into an and said, it'll be different for me. it'll be different than it was for mike pence. well, guess what? mike pence was extremely loyal to trump, i would say even to his detriment. i mean, i know his characters edge man anyway. yeah. and then at the end, his most loyal soldier, what does he do? >> he completely under the bus and puts him and his family and all these other people at risk. and doesn't care at all about it, right? and so i think i think it's pathetic to see some of these people angling. i think some of those people whose pictures you just thought there could be credible voices they could be credible voices and creating a different path

for the republican party in a different future for it, we don't know who he'll pick, but he'll pick somebody who will say the 2020 election was stolen and every one of these indictments is unfair and donald trump's a great victim. that's what he's looking for. >> well, the likely challenge, of course, one of the familiar and popular narratives is about the mental fitness of the person who is an office. i just want to ask you really quickly about this because president biden is on a high-profile trip overseas is the 80th commemoration of the farming of normandy. but of course back here there's the wall street journal public's piece titled behind closed doors, biden show signs of slipping and they spoke with more than apparently 45 republicans, joe on this point and democrats over a course of, i think several months who were in meetings with biden and beyond and also included officials and, you worked in many ways for the trump white house. this is part of what the concern is. olivia, and i want here for you as well, joe no administration wants this kind of covers the white house is pushed back. of course, saying that congressional republicans,

foreign leaders, and nonpartisan national security experts have made clear in their own words that president biden is a savvy and an effective leader who has a deep record of legislative accomplishment. now in 2024, house republicans are making false claims as a political tactic that flatly contradict previous statements made by themselves and their colleagues. let me ask you both with liquid respond is this a tactic that will win biden has one obstacle, laura, he has to show the american people he's not too old and he's up to the job. >> he has to do that don't don't lie and insult the voters and say, i haven't slowed down a little bit. ease 81-years-old acknowledged it and sam better than the other yeah, i guess and i would say, well, you know what? yes. fight in his older but he's saying and he will be surrounding himself with people who are saying who care about the rule of law of our country, who actually understand and respect national security and understand foreign diplomacy and what's at risk. i mean, look at the other guy. he's old, by the way, and he slowed

down down easy stuff and he's been saying crazy stuff even while sitting in the oval office. so when i look at the two of them, there's only one choice here. and when you think about what does trump cabinet look, let's look at the people that are going to surround him. all right. look at the lunacy of that. that's what i look i've needs to own it. look at all he's done. >> yeah, that's a campaign slogan older but saner. there's the t-shirt olivia troy coin. did joe walsh thank you both so much. there are a major legal questions in florida and also in georgia's. and as we've mentioned after trump's big legal wins in both places. so why is the judge in the classified documents case scrambling up the schedule and delaying it yet again, my next guest says a judge judge cannon knows exactly what she's doing. and we'll talk about in just a moment the increase in wildfires is exponential unpredictable uncontrollable with overwhelming consequences,

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subtlety is not in judge cannon's toolbox. quite the opposite. she is blatantly following the trump playbook, which is delay do everything no matter how legally ridiculous to stop trump from going to trial in this classified documents case, and to keep him from being held accountable. so her latest delay the trial ploy is to hope hold a hearing this time on the constitutionality of jack smith's appointment as special counsel ridiculous. >> that's already been taking care of, ruled on by other courts, but no, she loves to hold a hearing. and in addition, she's a want one. i drag it out an additional hour and a half by having three outside individuals. they're not witnesses, they're not parties to this case. to participate in the hearing, to give her so she can hear their expertise in this whole area may judge on that point. >> i do wonder for some people, but listen, they may say, hold on, that's that specific part

sounds like the amicus briefs that is supreme court. might entertain. how is this different than say these friend of court briefs? when people are not parties to the action, but they have some vested interests and they want to share their thoughts in a way that might be helpful. why and how is this instance different yeah. >> i mean, in this instance, the judge herself is reaching out and saying, oh, come in and be a part of this hearing, not allowing the lawyers to first come in, make their for arguments, and then present if they want to at the hearing, these some individuals or some more expertise in in the issue instead, she's she's just kinda know i'll just open it up and we'll just drag this out some more. but most importantly, laura judge cannon has not made any rulings on any substantive issues when she could have. >> and by that happening, this means she can't be reversed or taken up on appeal because you can't appeal anything until

the judge has made a substantive ruling. so that means she can then slow walk everything without any repercussions. this woman, this judge, really knows how to manipulate the judicial system and she's doing it very, very effectively. >> although blatantly and right, right in front of us in plain sight. and she's getting away with it. >> well, the special counsel, jack smith, have any recourse well, again what recourse if she hasn't made a ruling. so she'll listen to these issues and at low, i think i want to have another hearing or i want to add something more and still not making a ruling, just like the gag order, jet jack smith's request for a gag order. >> right. >> and so oh, what does she do? well, we're going to have to hold a hearing and we'll have to see about where i go on that and by the way, that hearing, let's hear other stuff too. let's hear about the prosecution of the defense wants to interrogate federal

witnesses who were maybe a part of the search. i'm it just goes on and on and remember, early on, she asked them to propose jury instructions on an issue that's not even relevant to the case and the trial, there's no trial date in this case. >> i want to remind everyone that i have very limited time, judge, unfortunately, but i do want to ask you quickly since you mentioned gag orders, there is still one pending in the manhattan case under judge merchan, there is a request that's been made for that to be to go away. now that the conviction is as taken place, the appeal will obviously be pending. >> would you modify or remove the gag order at this junction if you were judge merchan okay. very quickly. judge. must sean has jurisdiction over trump, not only through the sentencing, but even afterwards. if he plays his truck on probation. in my view, the judge should not do away with should not lift the gag order because the purpose of lifting the gag order is donald trump's decision. he's going

to attack jurors and he's going to attack the witnesses who testified against him in order to encourage others to make threats of violence against them. the first amendment does not protect that kind of speech. so as long as the judge has jurisdiction over donald trump, the judge has every right to end should continue the gag order to protect jurors and witnesses for the period of time that the judge has jurisdiction over trump. >> gee, i wonder if his legal counsel will have an issue with that, judge has obviously rhetorical, they certainly will. we'll see what judge for shot as they about avez. your honor. always a pleasure to be with you. thank you so much. >> thank you well, republican congressman byron donalds is defending himself after saying that black families were quote together during the jim crow sarah and democrats accused him of claiming that life was better for black americans. >> then he says his words are being twisted the conversation about race and america next every time i need a new phone,

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jim crow crow. go back, family wants to go during black people not just conservative always a big conservative library, for more land people voted conservatively was right about one thing during jim crow, while people were together, it was called segregation. >> they were literally only together. that's part of what was supposed to change. but i digress those comments rigueur, immediate backlash from the biden campaign to black lawmakers and some call the comment quote, ignorant revisionist history and coding congressman bennie thompson here. anyone who believes what congressman donald says is sick in the head unquote that just last our congress, myles explained to my colleague and friend abby phillip just what he meant frankly, what that is is about the empirical facts that before the great society,

before lyndon johnson's policies, there was more of black families united, united the marriage rate in black america was significantly higher before the great society well, that's true. marriage rates frankly have dropped since jim crow ended, but rates have actually dropped for all races since 1970. >> during me now, derrick johnson president of the end nwa cp. >> derrick johnson thank you so much for being here today. now, of course i can tell you this is not the first time we've heard a playbook about trying to appeal to black voters by talking and attacking the black family unit to suggest that it's a fractured population among what's not a monolith are you surprised this is a particular vehicle of choice for this congressman? >> well, he comes from a long line of grifter black people drifting on their race for self-benefit there's a book written about it. you have two lines of black republicans. you have douglas republicans who

actually cared about community, advocated for policies for the community when up against abraham lincoln, who was a white supremacy, because he said that if he could stop the war when our friend, any slaves, he would have done that. and then you have individuals like him who are seeking to self-benefit based on a false narrative to him, jim crow, majority of black people who lived in the south couldn't even participate and vote. because of jim crow laws. so here we are now someone seeking to be a vp nominee, trying to capture national headlines, tap dancing, so to speak, just so it can be considered, do you think i mean, obviously, he would disagree and suggests that this is exactly why democrats i'm not putting words into his mouth, just hearing his interviews in the past. this is what democrats do. they're trying to gaslight black voters. he has believed into believing that there's only one path to being a righteous member of the electorate through democratic party. what do you say to that? let's say, if you want to be the elected

officials stand on actual policies advanced concepts that will make america a better country across all racial lines don't try to use your racial identity to feed into a false narrative about who we are, what we should do and where we should be that's what, he's doing. >> he's fit into a false narrative here's our history is clear that african americans, we are not a monolith, but we vote together. we vote are integers. we are concerned with public policy outcomes and we ally with put a parties who care about the issues that we vote for. >> in fact, i mean antibody rights act of 1965. >> a lot of the work that was being done to try desegregate and discriminate for that reason, wasn't recognition of racial voting blocs, even without a monolith. >> and so you've got this acknowledgment that certainly you're trying to undermine by gerrymandering, by other ways to dilute the strength that particular populations here you, when you say that i'm curious because we all

remember, well, i mean, i'm very young, but some remember the president reagan are talking about in his campaign. are you better off than you were four years ago? now, that has resonated with a lot of people. >> but the idea of romanticized is it going being nostalgic about being better off during jim crow? >> is confounding to me. >> well, not factual. did was you quote, a costumer, bennie thompson? >> if you look at the south african americans did not get elected to congress in whole until after the 1990 redistricting cycle. >> that was over for 14 years and multiple chips to the supreme court, just a break. the back of jim crow laws or how congressional leinz withdrawn. and that's across the south in florida, mississippi, and texas. if you look at the class of 1992 is when you see an increase of members of the congressional black caucus because they had to overcome the reminisced jim crow laws. and so for him, who a member of congress, not to understand the history that put him in his seat to try to align

a narrative that's misinformation so he could be a vp is not only disingenuous is it's unfortunate. i was going to use another word, but it's unfortunate. >> well, you have intellectual nuance and all these issues, obviously. do you think this will resonate with some voters where the polling suggests that there has been an increase of black support for trump, certainly at a much slimmer level than it has been and that sustained period for president biden well, first of all, the poles have been wrong on multiple samples, right here. they have always been an accurate when it comes to african american voters. so out a look at paul's one pole that matter is on election day and cons for donalds, a long line of drifters who was in congress, they had to headlines. we don't hear from an a west o'neill me along, whereas jc watts, me, love lear, love. where is it's the former colleague from west. they come in a go because they're not representing the best interest of the community.

they come from. and i don't have a natural constituency base and less they pander to a conservative movement that really don't care about people more or less black people. >> well, you highlight attention between the ideologies and those who are trying to placate to pander or think for themselves in different ways and sometimes i agree it difficult to understand which one is accurate. thank you so much for joining today. >> thank you ahead. >> the suspect in the gilgo beach killings is already facing charges for murdering for women. now, we're learning that he will be indicted deaths of two more. we'll go through the evidence next the most anticipated moment of this election and the stakes couldn't be higher, biden democracy is on the ballot. >> your freedom is on the ballot. >> trump, there is nothing we cannot do. we will make a all right. good powerful again, the president and the former president. >> one day, two, very different

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world's news the suspect in the gilgo beach killings, rex heuermann, who was already charged, as you know, in the gruesome serial murders of for women is now connected to two more sources telling cnn additional charges are expected tomorrow when the murders of 20-year-old jessica taylor and 24 valerie mac. >> now, these expected charges come up to please recently searched long island's manner bill, where the partial remains of taylor and matt were first found more than 20 years ago. i'm gonna get right to john miller, cnn chief law enforcement and intelligence analyst. john, this story continues to evolve even more of a missile three, here you got remains of these two women were first found and mandeville long island, in 2000 and also 2003. this is long before the other victims were found or thought to have been killed. more partial remains found in gilgo beach in 2011, less than two miles away from the other four victims? put this together

for us. what is all this telling you? >> what this is telling us is that the gilgo beach serial killer investigation where rex heuermann is the charged prime suspect, is expanding exponentially how and why first, because they're looking at someone who the offender characteristics would suggest probably started killing before the murders that they know about from the gilgo beach burial site, or even the one in mandeville, those victims go back to the early 2000s studies show laura that most serial killers start killing when their 20s. so that would put us back into the clock of 1985, 1987. so they're looking at unsolved murders, missing persons who never turned up bodies that were recovered in burial areas or dumpsites that might have some similar offender characteristics and how they were tied or how they might have been dismembered and left at more than one location.

>> it's really starting to think about the scope of this investigation, continuing to expand. >> and in fact, a few weeks ago, police were seen carrying boxes out of germans massapequa, long island oh do we know what new evidence might connect him to more and more of these murders. well, we know what they were looking for the search the nature of the search, where they spend a good deal of time in the basem*nt, where they believe that some of the murders may have taken place. they have good reason to believe that many of these murders occurred in heuermann's house while his family was away, but they also spent a good deal of time digging around in the backyard, so they're operating on the idea that perhaps there are earlier killings that occurred in the house where the body has never made it to a dumpsite far away, or an or an dented burial ground we don't know exactly what they found, but they know between the searches they didn't mandeville the searches they did in the house and the material they took from before they've gathered enough

evidence to add two more cases, and they're looking for more. >> i mean, these six bodies, they've all been found ship a little less than what, three miles long. so well, are they still looking to connect even more bodies? possibly along this stretch to human? >> well, they have bodies that are unaccounted for four at the same burial site where you have an asian male. many of these victims were people who were involved in sex work that telephone records show human worked reached out to you, have an asian male, you have an infant child and another female. so what they're looking at is was it just sex workers and women he encountered or were there other people he killed for other reasons including ones that they know what about. and they're looking at ones that they don't know about those missing persons and so on. >> it's just heartbreaking and so terrifying to think about somebody engaged in this sterile behavior and the grizzly nature of these murders, john miller, please

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over 200 injured soldiers on omaha beach. and it wasn't without his own injuries. upon arrival, his battalions landing craft hit a mine corporate woodson had shrapnel in his back in his groin but he made it to the beach and set up a first aid station. the only one on that beach treating soldiers while taking enemy fire. >> corporal woodson's heroism reach the ear of a white house aide who recommended him for a metal of honore we didn't get that metal. >> in fact, not a single black member who served in the army, in world war ii was awarded one of the 432 metals of honore. thankfully, that's not where corporal woodson story ends. his family pushed for his bravery to recognized for decades after 80 years after a decade of research, the pentagon and senator chris van hollen finally awarded waverly

woodson the distinguished service cross the nation's second-highest honore that can be awarded for combat bravery. and here with b, now we have the honore of having the son of corporal waverly woodson, steven woodson along with him, his garrett graff, who was the author of when the sea came alive an oral history of d-day. and he is profiling corporal whitson story with his article. the forgotten hero of d-day steve, i'm so glad that you are here today and what an honor to learn more about your father. >> the idea of this recognition and i understand the army is going to bring the metal to the omaha beach that before it's handed it to your family? >> it is literally going to touch the space and the place where he should have been rightfully honored. how is that feeling for you oh, it's incredible. >> i had the opportunity to go to omaha beach last year. obvious part of filming with a documentary. and when i got on

the beach, law are quite honestly, i wasn't prepared for that. and the emotion just ran wild. so i can our families so thankful for the honors, it could be in bestowed upon him? >> what made you feel so emotional? was it just a realization and the weight of the moment or just knowing that this was the space where your father was so valiant a little bit of both actually, my father was really reclusive as most world war ii, that's were and he didn't start to actually open up and tell us a little tidbits here and there about what he experienced. >> the reason i got so emotional that morning was that i've followed right in his footsteps and i was actually starting to feel his emotion through me. it was unbelievable he ever expressed to you how how it felt, not to recognized or what that was like these years and let alone how it felt to be in that moment? yes he did in later years start to

talk about how he was somewhat bitter because he hadn't get recognition, but it really wasn't so much for what his valor was for that day. i think it was in general that be let us 320th barrage balloon battalion, as well as thousands of other black soldiers were never really properly recognized in recognized or yeah. or awarded, any are there any nerve hours so he was he was somewhat disgruntled of that bet. >> well, from what we've learned about your father, i mean, as as any true herat hero is where he is. he wasn't seeking praise, but respect respect could have been conveyed much sooner garrett, why did it take 80 years for this moment to come to be so some of this has to do with how the country reckoned with a segregated military in world for two more than 1.2 million black soldiers, sailors, airmen, coast guard, marines served in world war ii. >> but as you said, not one of

those 432 medals of honor for of world war ii went to a black soldier of the clinton administration, tried to remedy this to a certain extent in the 19 corporate woodson's case was actually passed over at that time because by then the pentagon had lost his personnel records and that this is been a real journey for archivists and historians with the first army another historian, linda, her view, who's, who's worked to try to resurface some of these stories of black soldiers and their heroism in world war ii. and i think to me part of this story is how our understanding of de d-day is still evolving. even now, 80 years later. >> and of course what it's like to go to fight for the promises of what was being denied even at home. i mean, the indignity of returning they were soldiers who returned had the udacity to wear their uniforms. and we're either killed or harmed or

vilified for having done so. >> i can't help it ignore what's in front of me right now. >> tell me what i am seeing because i am feeling like i'm in the presence of something that is so beautiful. what am i looking at this is the bronze star. >> he was awarded this originally in 1945 when he was stationed in hawaii it's kind of ironic. count took place because he didn't have a dedicated ceremony. they just basically gave him a medal and said, hey job, well done. thank you. and that's the last anybody had heard of it? well, recently over the last couple of years are spent a lot more we're notoriety towards this. so it was very, very important for our family to receive this posthumously. it means the world to us is that you understand, you keep your father's picture? yes. his dog tags in your in your vehicle high. is that what made you start doing that and has it feel to have that momentum it's incredible.

>> it's something that i never really gave salted doing it just something that just haven't one morning and i was sitting in the car and i had it and put it on a seat in has remained there to this day. and i say good morning to them every morning i talked to him a lot, so it's it is spirit lives on. >> i think that's a beautiful sentiment. just thinking while we're sitting here today, it will soon be morning in normandy, and that honor, that metal will be on that beach waiting to touch where your father just demonstrated an extraordinary amount of fowler and bravery and that will soon come to your family as well i'm immensely proud to hear about his father, and i can't help but wonder how many more stories are not being told, like his. yeah. >> i think that to me was a big part of trying to write this book this year. >> was that this 80th anniversary is this poignant moment where in many ways we are marking the final passing of the greatest generation 1 million allied personnel in motion in england and across

things channel on d-day. just a few thousand of them remain england now believes that they're just six living d-day veterans left in great britain. and so my goal with this and it was where i discovered a corporate woodson's story and was able to find some of his testimonials of that de to tell his story in this book was to try to tell the story of d-day in the first person in the voices of those who experienced and lived it sort of as we lose those voices. and d-day shifts permanently from memory into history. >> what was it about that generation that made it as you describe? >> i think to be one of the things that really stands out when you look at the legacy of d-day and why it matters to us still today is that this was an invasion that was launched, unlike almost every other invasion in human history, this was an invasion not to seize or

conquer but to liberate the men who fought on d-day, we're fighting for one of the most noble causes humans have ever fought and ronald reagan, who did so much to valorize the veterans of d-day in his a famous speech of pointe-du-hoc he said democracy is only ever one generation away from extinction and i think that that's the legacy we have to wrestle with today is what are we doing today to carry forward the legacy that the d-day generation left us well, let me shake the hand of one generation from a hero. thank you for allowing me to hear more about your father. it's really an honor. thank you so much. >> thank you. >> thank you. and thank you, garrett, for bringing this as well to me garrett graph also kind of a hero. thank you so much. thank you both. >> for being here and thank you so much for watching anderson cooper 360 is this election

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